Rob.Kaz #2

[Alex]

Hi

I am a friend of "helpp91" aka Marco by the way!
We both are trying to get RK's hairstyle, and you're probably gunna think i'm being stupid now but i'd like the ultimate guide on how to get his hairstyle. Marco (helpp) had his haircut the other day and didn't go through with the same kind of style so it looks different. I'm gonna get it done hopefully soon.
So, i'm gunna give you loads of pics and basically i'll just talk u thru it.


(These are direct links to the images of the type of style I want)
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6333/77222674jz9.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2015/11lw7.jpg
(FIRST - this is the style from the front. I want it the same, naturally messy, bit more spiking up though - like in later images. THIS IS THE LENGTH I WANT TO START AT... MOVING ON...)


(Please notice the sides and the back too please)
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8884/71472925jm8.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5111/finaleaj7.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/869/finale2qa2.jpg
(I WANT IT LIKE THIS - in the spikeyness/wildness. mine'll be a lot shorter to start off with though. i want it to GROW INTO THIS, this is the main texture i wnat right from the start really! would i let it grow longer first then ask for a big texture cut leaving loads sticking up?)


(This is what it looks like at a normal length, flat. I always will have it up like in the previous pics)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5757/withoutoa9.jpg



So, all I want to know is the direct actions for getting and MAINTAINING this style. The front, the sides and back. I want to start at the same length in the first 2 pics, maybe a wee bit shorter. I want the texture to be pretty much like it is in those pics but more like they are in the 2nd batch of pics. Big, wild and spikey everywhere! Sides and back? What should I ask for all round if I want it exactly the same? I will take pics in but would be more helpful if i also knew what to ask for. :P - Like I said, I would like it to grow into those 2nd batch of pics. The last pic is of how it looks when it's more flat.

Thank you very very much, as much detail as possible into this style and cut would be REALLY REALLY APPRECIATED MAJORLY! ta

[Toni]

Hi there Alex!

Welcome to the forum!

I would imagine you have read all I have written to Marco (helpp91)? I can tell you that this hairstyle is not as complicated as you may think. It's actually as much fun for the stylist as it is for you to wear!

Correct me if I am wrong: You are trying to achieve more spiking to include a messy bit of it on the sides and back (eventually)?

Note in the pics you listed here, the first, second and very las (flat), his hair is acutally shorter on the sides and back. There is somewhat of a fine line for length when spiking and it is too short in these 3 pics to pull that look other than on the top where it is longer.

Up to 3 inches or more on top (as long as you can get it to stand up) can work on the top for spiking. It should be a little shorter on the sides and back to be stylish, otherwise, it will appear to be in a "ball" when spiked. I'm not sure how long your hair is on top and on the sides & back so bear with me.

Ask for a regular haircut, EMPHASIZING, that you do not want it any shorter than 3 1/2 inches on top, (pics 3 -5 in your post looks longer than that on top!) 2- 2 1/2 inches on the sides and top back, graduating down to shorter layers on bottom back. The length of the back and around the ears do NOT have to dictate the length of your layers, unless of course you wanted them a lot longer than quoted here. Angles and tapering can help blend to adjust to wanted layers. So if the hair around the top of your ears (whether completely cut out or just over the top part of them) is 1/2", this length can be blended quickly into the 2 1/2" layers on the side.

Now tell them once they have cut this length desired, you need it texturized. This is a step a stylist should be familiar with. It simply means cutting back into the haircut chopping it up a bit so it's not too perfect and wants to lay down smoothly. It makes it work against itself and therefore sticks off which is what you want.

Not everyone does this procedure the same way. Some cut it as they go SO TELL THE STYLIST EVERYTHING BEFORE THEY START.

Unless you have coarse hair that will behave in whatever style you put it in, you are going to need some good products. Always apply styling products that are meant to be applied before hair dries, when your hair is ONLY damp...no excess water. Applying some mousse to the hair nearest the scalp will give strength here for hair to stand up. Some gels, texture puttys, etc are applied to damp ends sparingly. Messing your hair up as you blow dry (recommended) or air drying is best. However, I would NOT blow dry it all the time. You will quickly dry your hair out.

YET, since you're going to have to visit the stylist once a month to keep this cut at the right length, it may not suffer too much on the ends since they will be snipped off.

Now if you apply these products and your hair STILL doesn't want to stand up and stay where you'd like, try some hair wax. This is applied to DRY hair. Apply it to the ends and muss up the spikes all over just where you like them. Then don't touch the style until it drys. This doesn't get too stiff and usually stays right where you like though you may want to combine it with the mousse applied to hair right after towel drying.

You must experiment. I don't know the type of hair you have. Fine hair is harder to spike. TOO much product will make your hair "dirty" and I know that's not a desired look. So you will have to keep trying different methods and products to see what works best for your hair, your time allowed to spend styling it daily, though this style once mastered takes no time and your budget. Ask the professional you go to for that haircut who will have first hand knowledge of the products they sell and of your hair type.

Good luck Alex. And let me know how you and Marco make out with your spikes!

[Alex]

Are you the world's top professional hairdresser?

Top information there thank you, i've recently had my hair cut (1 week ago I think), I had a grade 3 on back and sides and it's now all really short to be honest.

Right i'll start off with THIS STYLE exactly, and build it from there:




So, this length but mine would be a tad more spiky/messy (like in the other pics), just a little bit though.
If I went for this style first, would it still grow into the others with the same cut to get this style right from the start?

[Toni]

Hey Alex,

Thanks for the compliment. I wish I were the world's best!

Yes, starting with this style is great. And it gives your stylist the (pardon the pun) 'head's up' on how you want your style. Like this only longer and yes, textured as you go.

And you're right, it would grow right into that style. Good observation. You would have to go in after it got out of hand to have it cut just right.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Toni

Hey Alex,

Thanks for the compliment. I wish I were the world's best!

Yes, starting with this style is great. And it gives your stylist the (pardon the pun) 'head's up' on how you want your style. Like this only longer and yes, textured as you go.

And you're right, it would grow right into that style. Good observation. You would have to go in after it got out of hand to have it cut just right.

I know it looks naturally messy and out of hand when it grows loads, but there's a limit between that's good and what's not. Too much over would be hideous!

So, do you recommend I wait a month or more until I go for this cut? My hair does grow very quickly, I have a double crown but my dresser thinned out my hair in my last cut so it should be ok this time. Yes so it'll probably be the same length or maybe a tad longer because I want it a little more messy/spikey/wild than in his first pics, not by much though!

[Toni]

Hey there,

I would say to decide as your hair grows and don't let it get too long or too out of shape. Yes a tad longer than you want it to end up as. That way there will be length enough to cut into for your new style. AND, you can say, you don't want much off, that you just want it textured into the new look.

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